IE Business School Professor Pino Bethencourt says women need to take risks to be successful in business. During an interview with London-based web publication, the expert on organizational behavior said women can’t expect to change the corporate world as outsiders. Instead, they need to work their way into top leadership positions where they can really have an impact.

In the meantime, women should not neccessarily expect to be accomodated in the workplace. That can mean challenges when it comes to balancing family life.  “I think women need to be sure that they want to be ambitious and successful, and then they will find the tactical ways to organize famlies,” she said.

For more on the interview, watch the video above or read the full article. The video was filmed at the offices of BusinessBecause in London.